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After over a year of delays, the new book has finally arrived. Let's have another look at the good doctor. The book is chock full of calibrations, hundreds of them, politics, media, movies, Great Books of the Western World, architecture, scientists, philosophers, artists, industries, corporations, scientific theories, 2004 election, government agencies, law enforcement,TV commercials, philanthropic organizations, medical practices, America, public service organizations, famous criminals, and much, much more. Beginning with countries, how do they stack up? USA -421 Austrailia - 410 Canada -415 Mexico -300 PRC -300 Iraq -120 Haiti -55 Bosnia -180 North Korea -175 Cuba -180 Nepal -205 Vietnam -140 Europe -355 Syria -155 India -355 Pakistan -140 Israel -190 The U.S. position on the Vietnam war -405 at first, then dropping to 350 Kennedy position on the Cold War -430 Nixon's position -400 GHW Bush position on the Gulf War I -400 Sadadam Hussein position -95 Soviet leaders: Khruschev -80 Breznev -90 KGB -40 CIA -185 Calibrations for early Iraq war: Bush -460 Powell -460 Blair 440 Secretary of Defense -460 U.S. Military (intention) -450 State Department (intention) -450 Congress -450 U.S. population -431 U.S. media - 320 Peace vigils -305 Pre-emptive war -360 Oh, boy, we're having some fun now.  | |||
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It really is fun to see how Hawkins feels about things, isn't it?  | ||||
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Hawkins on Kundalini,(Truth vs Falsehood,page 69): "This spiritual energy, or kundalini, as it is often called (Sanella, 1992), eventually is more strongly dominant with the progression of consciousness until, finally, its presence becomes detectable by sensation. By the time the consciousness levels reach the 500s, and especially in the high 500s the energy tends to flow in a generalized way and influences not only subjectivity but percieved experience as well. Life experiences become progressively more benign and fortuitous. What is held in mind tends to present itself almost effortlessly as thoug h by the miraculous. The subjective sensation of this energy field is exquisite and sweetly pleasurable. Characteristically, it is experienced as flowing up the back and the spine into the brain where it can be made to flow into any specific area of the brain by merely focusing attention. At times the energy flows of its own accord out the front of th e body from the heart region by virtue of its own intrinsic nature. The energy flow potentiates healings and transformations in self and others. It is the influential energy field that potentiates the 'miraculous' (Calibrates as 'true') (Hawkins, 2001)." This matches my experience of "k", except that I never attempted to move it around to areas of my brain, but I lack Hawkins grasp of anatomy and brain function. Also, I attribute the miracles to that which I believe to be the Source. <*))))>< http://www.skaggs-island.org/h...nella/kundalini.html Ok, I remember Sannella now. Interesting...  Hawkins uses his psychiatric skill to assess pathological states vs authentic spiritual states and had done this for the Catholic church, Zen and Protestant monastics. He's been to Snowmass to visit with Father Keating and the boyz, so, he's no piker... yeah, lots of fun... | ||||
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U.S. Politics: Anarchy 105 Abortion Anti 250 Pro 235 Church/Pike Committee hearings 185 Conservative party 310 Cultural Creatives 335 Democratic Party 310 Domestic Partership Law 335 Evangelical Right (Moral Majority) 245-255 Gay Marriage Law (Massachusettes) 265 Green Party 180 Far Left Liberal 185 Far Right Conservative 135-145 Liberal 180-200 Libertarian Party 295 McCarthy Hearings 185 Moderates 200-390 Republican Party 315 Secularism 180 Socialist Party 265 Torricelli Principle "Section 527" 160 Organizations 200 | ||||
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Distribution of Levels of Consciousness, Middle East Egypt 300 Iran 190 Iraq 120 Israel 190 Jordan 185 Kuwait 190 Lebanon 130 Oman 90 Palestine 185 Saudi Arabia 175 Syria 160 Turkey 245 UAE 180 Yemen 160 | ||||
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Terrorist Organizations Abu Sayyaf Group (Philippines) 85 Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade Israel, West Bank, Gaza 75 Al-Quaeda (Wahabism) Global 65 Asbat al-Ansar (Lebanon) 75 Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) France, Spain 80 Chachon Separatists (Russia) 85 Fallujah Insurgents 85 Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) Central Asia 75 Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) Israel, West Bank, Gaza 75 Hasbullah (Lebanon) 70 Hofsted Network (Netherlands) 85 Ivory Coast Revolutionaries 90 Jaishe-e-Mohammed (Pakistan) 75 Jamaah Islamiya (Southest Asia) 80 Kach Kahane Chai (Israel, West Bank) 80 Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) Turkey 85 Lashkar I Jhangve (Pakistan) 75 Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (Sri Lanka) 80 Moro Islamic Liberation Front (Philippines) 80 Moroccan Islamic Combat Group (Morocco) 85 National Liberation Army (ELN) (Columbia) 80 Palestine Islamic Jihad (Israel, West Bank, Gaza) 75 Palestine Liberation Organization 65 Real IRA (Northern Ireland) 85 Revolutionary Armed Forces (FARC) (Columbia) 90 Salifist Cell and Combat Group (Algeria) 80 "Supremacist Groups" (Racist, Ethnic, Religious, Political) Worldwide 40-85 Tewhid we Jihad (Iraq) 70 Ulster Defense Association (Northern Ireland) 85 United Self-Defense Forces (Columbia) 90 ------------------------------------------------- A calibration of 50 has a condemning God, hopeless self, emotion of despair and process of Abdication A calibration of 75 has an uncaring God, tragic self, emotion of regret and process of despondency A calibration of 100 has a punitive God, frightening life view, emotion of anxiety and process of withdrawal 50 level is Apathy, Hatred 75 level is Grief 100 level is Fear Boy, just one of these people could ruin your whole day!  | ||||
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Ten Noble Traits of Americans, (Devji 2004, calibration 470), as quoted on pages 170-171: 1)GODLY: Almost all of us acknowledge that a power beyond us guides the swirling destinies of men; the Native Americans pray to a 'Great Spirit' and with a reverent heart tie it to the sacred earth and skies of America. 2)TOLERANT: European Christians settled this land and wrote it's constitution. They then opened their arms wide and welcomed people from the rest of the world. Now mosques, synagogues and temples pepper the landscape along with churches. Muslims can worship more freely here than in most Moslem countries. Sikhs wear turbans and Jews their yamakas. 3)VISIONARY: While we are an earthbound nation enjoying our material success, we are also an extraordinary visionary people. We dare to dream impossible dreams. We soar the skies searching the stars. We have landed on planets that lie shrouded in billions of years of silence. On earth, our vision in the healing arts will literally make the lame walk and the blind see. 4)PROSPEROUS: The capacity of Americans to work hard joyously is the stuff of which the wealth of this country is made. Our work ethic is unmatched. We are the richest country in the world, but our children start babysitting, bagging groceries and cutting lawns while they are still in school. 5) GENEROUS: There is possibly no country on earth which has not been touched by the generosity of Americans. We respond to earthquakes, floods and famines with compassionate hearts. We send money, medicines, clothes and prayers to victims of every color and creed, even our "enemies." We know that we are custodians of wealth, not it's owners. 6) RESILIENT: Americans have an uncanny capacity to bounce back from adversity---- accidents, bankruptcies, and divorces. The rebuild their bodies, businesses and lives. They do not sit in dark corners; they fight back. 7)COURAGEOUS: A four-year-old in my neighborhood comes around the corner wearing a helmet, riding a scooter, and my aunts in India still hold on to their 14-year-olds protectively! Americans seem to be born with an extra streak of courage. It seems to be seared within our soul. We teach the world the meaning of the word with our daring spirits and our exploits. 8)HUMOUROUS: We love laughter and life. You can tell an American abroad because he is generally the one who has the biggest smile, sometimes the loudest voice and laughter, and is the most approachable. An American will fill a room with his infectious goodwill and just not treat anyone as a stranger. 9) SELF INTROSPECTION: Occupying the unique position that we do in the world, we could be really arrogant and indifferent to people's opinions, but we are childlike in our need for approval. We are a self-introspective people, we dissect our actions and thoughts, we form committees, and we discuss them in our newspapers, television, and town hall meetings. 10) SWEETNESS: Countries, like people, become dry and arid if the quality of sweetness is absent from the souls of their citizens. Americans have been blessed with a rare quality of sweetness of the soul. ------------------------------------------------- As you can see, Hawkins is quite bullish on America and Devji must have had her Special K one morning! | ||||
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Diagnostic Scale -----Politics and the election 2004 Conservatives 415 Republicans 405 Moderates 375 Democrats 325 Liberals 255 Ultra Liberal, Far Left 185 Far Left diatribes 135 Anarchists 100 Non-voters 90 ------------------------------------------------- I might have to rethink and recontextualize my preference for moderate positions vis a vis the Conservatives, which calibrate higher. I have to go "up" and not "left". Where is the "center," I wonder? | ||||
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I might have to rethink and recontextualize my preference for moderate positions vis a vis the Conservatives, which calibrate higher. I have to go "up" and not "left". Where is the "center," I wonder? I knew that if you hung around me long enough, MM, that I could eventually change your mind. But seriously, you needn�t narrow things down to those choices, especially since I believe YA AIN�T GOT A CONSERVATIVE BONE IN YOUR BODY!!!  What I would recommend (and goodness knows the country needs this, if only as something to replace the loony left) is for you to spearhead a movement for the reawakening and re-energization of true Jeffersonian-style liberalism. That�s not to say that Jefferson didn�t have some major holes in his thinking. No man is perfect. But he was pretty darn good: "The essential principles of our Government... form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty and safety." --1st Inaugural Address, 1801. "The principles of Jefferson are the axioms of a free society." --Abraham Lincoln "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Thomas Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315 "That every man shall be made virtuous by any process whatever is, indeed, no more to be expected than that every tree shall be made to bear fruit, and every plant nourishment. The brier and bramble can never become the vine and olive; but their asperities may be softened by culture, and their properties improved to usefulness in the order and economy of the world." --Thomas Jefferson to Cornelius Camden Blatchly, 1822. ME 15:399 "Self-love... is the sole antagonist of virtue, leading us constantly by our propensities to self-gratification in violation of our moral duties to others. Accordingly, it is against this enemy that are erected the batteries of moralists and religionists, as the only obstacle to the practice of morality. Take from man his selfish propensities, and he can have nothing to seduce him from the practice of virtue. Or subdue those propensities by education, instruction or restraint, and virtue remains without a competitor." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Law, 1814. ME 14:140 "[Montesquieu wrote in Spirit of the Laws, III,c.3:] 'When virtue is banished, ambition invades the minds of those who are disposed to receive it, and avarice possesses the whole community." --Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book. "[Algernon Sidney wrote in Discourses Concerning Government, Sect. II, Par. 8:] 'Those who have no sense of right, reason or religion, have a natural propensity to make use of their strength to the destruction of such as are weaker than they.'" --Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book. "I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power." --Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:278 Amen to that last one. | ||||
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You keep going with those calibrations, MM, and I just might take another look at Hawkins. Nice to know that the cosmic intelligence thinks conservatives have more integrity than liberals! | ||||
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If you want a high level of consciousness on television, watch National Geographic, History Channel, 700 Club and Oprah Winfrey. Yes, Oprah!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oprah_Winfrey "700" Club" 400 Action Movies 180 All in the Family 255 American Idol 180 America's Most Wanted 345 Animal/Nature 405 Bill Cosby Show 385 Biography Channel 405 Broadcast Programming (overall) 275 Cheers 250 Children's Cartoons 180 Children's Programs 355 Crime Programs 180 History, Discovery and Science Channels 405 Homemaking, Decorating and Woodshop 345 I Love Lucy 395 Infomercials 180 Kukla, Fran and Ollie 405 Married With Children 190 MTV 130 Muppets, The 310 National Geographic 450 Oprah Winfrey Show 510 PBS 405 "Reality" Show Contests 125 Sitcoms (Situation Comedies) 180 Sports 375 Sullivan, Ed 435 "Terry Jones Midieval History" 410 Weather 405 Web M.D. 200 | ||||
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Philanthropic Foundations Gates, Ford, Mellon, Carnegie 400 Kellogg, Pew, Duke, Wal-Mart 400 Lilly, Rockefeller, F.W. Johnson 400 Templeton 500 Wheelchair Foundation (K. Behring) 520 Others 400 This comes as a surprise to me, as I was under the impression that liberals had overrun the foundations. Wonder where right-wing paranoia calibrates? | ||||
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Since we are having a discussion in another thread about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Calvin and comparing their influence to the likes of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II and have also discussed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalai_Lama I would mention at this point that Calvin and Luther calibrate at 580, and His Holiness and His Holiness both calibrate at 570. Since 99.99% of us never reach such exalted states, I consider myself fortunate to live in a world influence by such grace and light! | ||||
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Intelligent Design heads the list of scientific theories. Here's the list: Attractor Fields (Non-linear Dynamics) 460 "Big Bang" Source-of-Universe Theory False Biofield 460 Black Hole Theory rev. 2004 (Hawking) 455 Bootstrap Theory 455 Chaos Theory 455 Collective Unconscious (Jung) 455 Consciousness as Consequence of Neuronal Activity 140 Consciousness Calibration 605 Darwinian Theory of Evolution 450 Dinasaur Extinction Theory 200 Dirac Equations 455 Discovery of Double Helix of DNA 460 "Distant Healing" False (Divinity as Source of Universe) Infinite Drake Equation 350 Earth's Magnetic Field Weakening True Earth Slowly Reversing Magnetic Poles 460 Earth Warming Due to Pollution False Earth Warming Due to Solar Magnetic Surface Cycles 455 E=mc2 455 Entanglement (Quantum Theory) False Frame Dragging 460 "God" gene False "Greenhouse" gas Earthwarming theory False Heartmath 460 Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle 460 Hormesis 180 "Holographic Universe" 395 Inflation Theory (post-Big-Bang) 450 Intelligent Design 480 Microbe Organisms on Mars True Mind Fields Entangled with Divinity True Mind Fields Entangled with Others False Morphic Resonance 460 Morphogenetic Fields (Sheldrake) 460 M-Theory (formerly String Theory) 460 Multiple Universes True Newtonian Causality Principle 460 Nonlinear Dynamics 460 Prayer Increases Healing True Nuclear Fission (actuality) 200 Nuclear Fission Theory 455 Organisms on Mars True Parallel Universe Theory False Quantum Coherance 460 Quantum Gravity 460 Quantum Mechanics 460 Schrodinger Equations 455 Singularities 455 S-Matrix Theory 455 Spiritual Experience as Consequence of Neuronal Activity 125 "Steady State" Theory of Ongoing Expansion of Universe 405 Stem Cell Research 245 Subparticle Physics 455 Telekinesis True Teleportation of Quantum States (electrons in ions) 400 United States Space Program 400 von Neuman Process 450 Water on Mars True | ||||
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Multiple Universes - True I thought the definition of a "universe" was that there could only be one (uni) of them. I wonder what was actually being tested. Distant Healing - False That's just plain wrong. I've been in on several situations where this is happened. Stem Cell Research - 245 That's surprising. I wonder why? Nuclear Fission Theory - 455 Good call -- after we've exploded quite a few a-bombs, it would seem the theory has been well-verified. (Just fooling around, here, MM, but I don't see the point in some of these calibarations.) | ||||
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Jesus performed healing from a distance, so, I wonder about that one too. Here's another list: Marginal Spiritual/Religious Belief Systems (Ideology) Atheist Movement (Ideology) 190 Christian Identity Movement (Ideology) 110 Aum Shenriko Cult 85 Aztec Religion 85 Channeling 195 Crop Circles Extraterrestrial? No Cults 50-160 Divination 185 DNA Code Theology (Ideology) 160 Easter Island Statues 70 Extraterrestrials Real? No Fortune Telling 185 Full-Moon Gatherings (New Age) 180 Goddess Movement 190 Heaven's Gate Cult 160 Incan Religion 85 Incoming Fifth World (Ideology) 130 "Left Behind" Apocalyptic Ideology 190 Mayan Religion 95 New Ageism 185 Solar Temple (Ideology) 155 Plasma Energy Orbs (Ideology) 160 Polygamous Sects 135 Raeliens (Ideology) 130 Right-Wing Fundamentalist Christian (Ideology) 95 Secularism 165 Shroud of Turin Real? No Star Children (Ideology) 160 Star People (Ideology) 160 Starseed Family 145 Tantra (Modern) 95 UFUs Real? No Urantia Book (Ideology) 150 Wicca (Ideology) 160 | ||||
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The Social Impact of Famous Persons Astronauts 460 Baker, Josephine 445 Balanchine, George 430 Bell, Alexander Graham 450 Booth, John Wilkes 135 Bryant, William Jennings 450 Carnegie, Andrew 490 Carnegie, Dale 420 Carsen, Rachel 485 Carver, George Washington 435 Chisolm, Shirley 400 Churchill, Winston 510 Columbus Christopher 375 Comstock, Anthony 250 Darrow, Clarence 455 de Mille, Agnes 425 DiMaggio, Joe 480 Duncan, Isadora 460 Earhart, Emilia 395 Eisenhower, Dwight D. 480 F.D.R. Fireside Chats 500 Franklin, Benjamin 480 Geronimo 445 Gorbachev, Mikhail 500 Graham, Martha 420 Henry, Patrick 445 Hoover, J. Edgar 255 Jones, Bobby 485 Keller, Helen 520 Kubler-Ross, Elizabeth 485 LaGuardia, Fiorello 460 Lee, Bruce 480 Lewis and Clark 440 Lindberg, Charles 395 Mandela, Nelson 505 Markova, Alecia 475 Marrick, Joseph, the Elephant Man 590 Najinski 530 Nation, Carrie 235 Nightingale, Florence 465 Oswald, Lee Harvey 180 Peale, Norman Vincent 435 Reagan, Ronald (President) 500 Ruth, Babe 440 Rockne, Knute 455 Rogers, Fred ("Mister Rogers") 500 Roosevelt, Eleanor 495 Ruby, Jack 180 Shriver, Sergeant 460 Sitting Bull 420 Tubman, Harriet 350 Washington, Booker T. 460 Washington, George 455 Wright Brothers 455 Zanuck Daryl 425 | ||||
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Science-Clinical Acupuncture 405 America's Best Hospitals 450 Clinical Kinesiology 600 Clinical Psychology 380 Consciousness Levels Calibration 605 DBT Psychology 385 Energy Medicine 460 Homeopathy 200 Internal Medicine 440 Medicine, General 440 Medicine Holistic 440 Oriental Medicine 395 Pharmacology 450 Psychiatry 440 Psychoanalysis (Freud) 460 Psychoanalysis (Jung) 460 Surgery 440 | ||||
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MM, I take it that these listing are free game for commentary/critiquing/curmudgeoning. The Social Impact of Famous Persons Astronauts 460 Is "social impact" defined as real social impact or as a popularity opinion poll? How, exactly, do astronauts make such a significant social impact? Surely the scientists behind space flight technology do. Gorbachev, Mikhail 500] My father was a Gorby fan. I never quite could convince him that he was just a failed Communist who accidentally stumbled into fame by being an even worse economic reforming. The only way to reform Communism is to dump in on the scrap heap of history, something Boris Yeltsin definitely had a hand in. Hoover, J. Edgar 255 Certainly Hoover has fallen out of favor in recent years. But one could quite easily argue that his impact, while often heavy-handed, was very, very positive in terms of defending us all from some truly bad guys. I�d add another couple hundred points to his score and pull my head out of my PC attitudes. Washington, George 455 That�s WAY too low. My goodness, why is Eleanor Roosevelt higher at 495? That�s truly a joke. Rogers, Fred ("Mister Rogers") 500 Well, at least he didn�t screw this one up, even thought that would have been tough to do in this case. | ||||
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Here is an excellent critique of Hawkins work. http://tinyurl.com/94vs2 I posted this on a Hawkins Yahoo group forum hoping to get a meaningful discussion going. I believe the points raised by this article are indicative of a pattern of criticism regarding Hawkins work and it was worth throwing around some issues raised. Ha !! what an idiot I am thinking this was a good idea! The moderator; God Bless him, he is a nice guy, was not to keen on it and closed the discussion down. I just feel it�s good to see what others think both good and bad�. I don�t get reactive either way. I just use it to dig deeper and learn more. Life is not all green lights!  Michael PS.- some of the more recent reviews on Truth vs Falsehood on amazon.com have gone down a different road to the initial ones http://tinyurl.com/djmpr PSS I was surprised non-voters are at 90 yet anarchists are at 100!! | ||||
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From the article critiquing Hawkins' approach: Touche' And that was a superb article, MM. Thank you so much for bringing it to our attention. Maybe you should add it to the end of that other Hawkins thread sometime. Those were the kinds of points I was trying to make, only this author has gone to great lengths to spell them out. There is a value in all those calibrations, however. As I noted above, they tell us the unconscious perspective Hawkins and co. have on things. Turns out he's a pretty conservative guy who thinks rather highly of his own work. Edit: tell us more about that forum, MM. What's the URL? Why can't they even discuss an article like this? Do you think they're Hawkins groupies? | ||||
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I think that�s a great observation. Yep. MM said: The moderator; God Bless him, he is a nice guy, was not to keen on it and closed the discussion down. Are you saying that the Hawkins Yahoo group basically will not put up with criticism? Sounds very cultish to me. If so, I�m not surprised. The nature of Hawkins� work always sounded fundamentally flawed and more than a bit odd. | ||||
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There is a value in all those calibrations, however. As I noted above, they tell us the unconscious perspective Hawkins and co. have on things. Turns out he's a pretty conservative guy who thinks rather highly of his own work. LOL. Touch� to you as well! I would think that any tool that could help uncover the unconscious would be useful. Perhaps someone has taken that technique and instead of looking for absolutes (which is surely a waste of time using that technique) looks for hidden thoughts and desire. One would think marketers would pay big money for a technique that could show what people really are thinking and what they really desire. | ||||
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�One would think marketers would pay big money for a technique that could show what people really are thinking and what they really desire.� You could in a sense but kinesiology has an inherent built in safety factor. You always ask first before you test �is this question in my highest good and for all concerned� If you get a �no� then you leave it. That�s it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I feel one of the main reasons Hawkins draws criticism is he talks in absolutes, as that article states. Absolutes are a big No No in a society which has its intellectual and academic structures well entrenched in pluralistic relativism; or the GREEN meme for those familiar with Spiral Dynamics. Ken Wilber outlines this dilemma well When pluralistic relativism takes over, it claims that all truth is culturally situated (except its own truth, which is true for all cultures); it claims that there are no transcendental truths (except its own pronouncements, which transcend specific contexts); it claims that all hierarchies or value rankings are oppressive and marginalizing (except its own value ranking, which is superior to the alternatives); it claims that there are no universal truths (except its own pluralism, which is universally true for all people). Hawkins stance from this point of view looks like a decent back down to the Blue Meme � Life has meaning, direction, and purpose, with outcomes determined by an all-powerful Other or Order. This righteous Order enforces a code of conduct based on absolutist and unvarying principles of "right" and "wrong." Violating the code or rules has severe, perhaps everlasting repercussions. Hawkins being the age he is has been brought up is a Blue meme world and that is the way he expresses himself. His language is not couched in �New age� niceties. These facts alone are enough to push buttons. The beauty of systems like Spiral Dynamics it gives you a clue what value filters are being used. I have been a member on some Hawkins yahoo groups for a couple of years now. By and large they are a decent bunch. Cultish �.not really However they are well ensconced in the Green meme �new age� world view. Hence a ill-defined politically and spiritually correct mine field must be tread to deal with these Hawkins devotees. Or �BOOM!!!!!  Michael | ||||
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