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I propose a listing exercise with a very simple rubric. Add whatever you'd like but follow this format:

I recommend that, instead of reading [place name of book or name of author in blank], one might profit more from reading [place name of book or name of author in blank].

Just add to the list and include all of the previous entries, chain-letter style. Do not give your reasons on this thread but do consider, when you can get around to it, presenting your reasons and any compare & contrast exercise in a separate thread under this Reviews topic.

Feel free to do the same with movies, interchangeably. Just add movies and books to the same list. To wit:
I recommend that, instead of watching [place name of movie or director/film star/producers in blank], one might profit more from watching [place name of movie or director/film star/producers in blank].

I'll kick it off:

1) Instead of reading Ken Wilber, one might profit more from reading Daniel Helminiak.

2) Instead of watching ...
 
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If you want to read a good book written by a scientist, don't read Contact, by Carl Sagan. Read Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman! by Richard Feynman.
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Oops. Maybe I didn't do this right. Okay...

Instead of watching Katie Couric anchor the ABC Evening News (whenever that starts, if it hasn't already), go to NationalReviewOnline.com.

Instead of listening to...
 
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[qb] If you want to read a good book written by a scientist, don't read Contact, by Carl Sagan. Read Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman! by Richard Feynman.
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Oops. Maybe I didn't do this right. Okay...

Instead of watching Katie Couric anchor the ABC Evening News (whenever that starts, if it hasn't already), go to NationalReviewOnline.com.

Instead of listening to... [/qb]
Instead of thalonet Razzer
 
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Never pick a fight unless you're prepared to get down and dirty.

Instead of reading Plato's Republic, one might profit more from reading this.
 
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BN, could you design a book cover for How the West Was Won ( and what we must do to get it back) - a concise critique of Ken Wilber's influence on modern spirituality

 
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JB, I will definitely work on this. Also, let me know which book by Daniel Helminiak that you recommend starting with.
 
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[qb] JB, I will definitely work on this. Also, let me know which book by Daniel Helminiak that you recommend starting with. [/qb]
I recommend going to Visions of Daniel and, in the context of this particular recommendation, checking out his discussion of Wilber. But if you are wilber-fatigued,as we all get around here about twice a year, there is a lot of other stuff, too.


His Christology is a good read.



God Bless Daniel,
jb

 
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Superb, even has the 4Q symbolism ... Boy, am I gonna have a good time late April-fooling some folks with this one, BN. Thanks! Big Grin

Truly yours,
jb

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Oh, I know I made no mention of the forward, but I believe a notice of such a thing, at most, would be on the back jacket unless the forward was by someone really well-known like Henry Kissinger or something. But in all good humor and with the worst of intentions, I present the first draft of the forward of this upcoming book:

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When I was first approached by John and Phil to become a part of this book project, I said "Hey, who really cares all that much about Mr. Ed�s owner? Besides, I didn�t even know that Alan Young was into spiritualism." But then JB set me straight, as he always does. "I�m not talking about a TV show from the 60�s, dingleberry. I�m talking about Ken Wilber, the guy who has on the homepage of his website an endorsement by Dr. Walsh which says �Ken Wilber is one of the greatest philosophers of this century and arguably the greatest theoretical psychologist of all time.� Well, I�m going to argue that point and I want you to give me some of those brilliant, fantastic, incredible, -- dare I even say ingenious? � comments of yours."

How could I refuse? So after negotiating for a percentage of the book profits (gross, not net�I insisted on this -- I won�t be cheated), I proceeded to read John and Phil�s book. I was amazed! I was excited. I was on the edge of my seat! The cover art for his book was just exquisite. And then, after first having a trucking company forklift in an Oxford Super-duper Unabridged English Dictionary next to the side of my reading chair (with a couple Websters and several online dictionaries at my fingertips as a backup), I delved into his book. I was amazed! I was excited. I was hermeneutically spellbound. Never before had I seen fallacies exposed, dissected, removed, and thrown into the trash bin in such rapid succession. The multi-syllable semi-intelligible words were flying off the page -- although come to think of it, most of those phrases are so heavy they wouldn�t fly if you strapped a Saturn V rocket onto them. But that�s beside the point.

This is a most insightful (and I dare say inciteful) book by a pair of true intellectual heavy weights of our time. I understand that both their wives have them on proper diets now though. I now feel I possess a most thorough understand of Wilberian thinking and why, up to this point, Ken�s techniques have left me feeling that there was a little something missing. Well, John and Phil provide all the missing parts and more. This book is a feast for the mind. If brain food had a cholesterol rating, this would be like eating raw goose liver. But it�s oh so satisfying.

I recommend that all my friends run out and buy this book immediately. But since that amount of sales would leave all of us in poverty, I urge everyone else to buy one too. Don�t miss this ground-breaking and dictionary-shattering tome. Your spiritual life will be the better for it. In fact, you�ll probably be a much nicer person too, although Bantam Publishing insists that I put a little disclaimer in here and mention that that was a joke and that by reading this book you won�t necessarily really become a better person. [But I think you will � the heck with them fussy lawyers.]
 
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Man alive, those are funny, Brad! Big Grin And very well done! You should be a graphic artist. Oh, wait . . .

I'll pass on actually doing such a book, as I'm quite burned out on critiquing Wilberish writings at this time. But one could copy/paste JBs posts from a number of threads and come up with a JB metaphysics manuscript. One could start here (a thread I've bookmarked for nights as a bulwark against insomnia). The Afterword is already written. Wink
 
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The Afterword is already written.

Wow, how did you ever think of digging up that old thread?
 
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