Hi Everybody,
Another dissapointment in my latest kundalini adventure:

some time ago i run so much circles in warm boots around the table. afterwards i had serious foot problems. It really hurt.And I coudnt walk.
(also i went down in the medication that day)

The balls of my FEET are for some time very red also in the flesh and it feels ENERGETICALLY, when not in cramp.
when i walk on them i feel noice / pressure increasing in my ears and it does feel awfull, so there happens too much in the head. For some time now i have been having this and it doesnt go away.So I am really worried, with this problem.

Any suggestions are very welcome,
The normal docters circuit here cant find the solution.
Perhaps healers who could do something to improve the situation?

Hope to hear your suggestions.
Best.
HCB

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i wonder what people would think of whether fasting was a good idea at all here...

as theoretically it gives the body the opportunity to heal itself...

BUT i don´t know how it gets along with this kind of possible kundalini energy and possible medical conditions ((it would of course need to be discussed with the doctor first))...

also anyway it would need to be done properly and long enough, and when stopped eating like raw fruit&veggie for 2 days

if i was you i Might consider it after a proper research... yet i´m no one to advise here

anyways also i have been advised to do plentiful of exercise daily, be in nature a lot, hug trees and whatever, and have a very very healthy diet with no drugs, alcohol, caffeine, meat, processed goods, added sugar.... i have been told this is the most important.... plus having a very healthy life does no harm to anyone its good also to have positive loving thoughts, and its ok if there are none of them but then its a good sign to progress in personal wellbeing for instance with the aid of a healthy life style, psychotherapy (recommended!!), maybe watching some videos of Sadhguru, Echart Tolle etc from youtube (helps me )

not sure if this was of any help but the intention was good. ill be a psychologist, not a doctor.

take care.

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Originally posted by bear:
i wonder what people would think of whether fasting was a good idea at all here...

"Intermittent fasting" is a "hot" diet right now, especially for obesity and diabetes. As I mentioned on the other thread, Dr. Jason Fung has written a couple of books on this subject. He is a kidney specialist in Toronto.

However, I think any real doctor (as opposed to the likes of us!) would want to understand the diagnosis before recommending a course of treatment.

yes you are right in that it may not be suitable even if it sounded good to the likes of us, even if the trendiness didnt influence...

actually my best teacher is of Indian yogic tradition so i´m very biased here.

yes i completely agree medical doctors should of course evaluate what is the cause and that is of primary importance.

but if that is not available. (i dont really understand why not. what has the doctor said specifically and to what symptoms? it may be mentioned somewhere else here.) and then if doctors are ok with fasting in a certain condition, could it be somewhat fine to try it? fasting in general is very good, e.g. for cell renewal and liver cleansing. kundalini + fasting i have no clue if its always safe.

anyways, a very healthy lifestyle -and grounding- is a good and safe thing to anyone as well as psychotherapy etc.

the doctors ( an internist) i should wait for a
invitation, but it doesnt have priority,
even my home doctor has not made it that.
pfff..
symtoms : red feet, cramp, red on toes, energetically feeling ,no hard skin left.
also on outside underside,head problems because of feet problems,
my body cant handle the amount of energy.
man i dont know wht to do anymore,
when i increase medication then problems
could become even worse,

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Originally posted by hcb:
the doctors ( an internist) i should wait for a
invitation, but it doesnt have priority,
even my home doctor has not made it that.
pfff..
symtoms : red feet, cramp, red on toes, energetically feeling if it is energy ,no hard skin left.
also on outside underside,head problems because of feet problems,
my body cant handle the amount of energy.
man i dont know wht to do anymore,
when i increase medication then problems
could become even worse,

The cause is medication changes from first to high then i was under energy , after that from high to low and the situation deterioted, and was already very bad.
legs and feet cramped after this too.

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Originally posted by hcb:
some time ago i run so much circles in warm boots around the table. afterwards i had serious foot problems. It really hurt.And I coudnt walk.

hcb, why did you run around the table in warm boots for so long that your feet became red and painful?

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Originally posted by bear:
kundalini + fasting i have no clue if its always safe.

I have no clue either, which is why I am not in a position to offer advice to hcb.

I am reading a book by Derek Prince titled They Shall Expel Demons. As I understand it, all these problems started when hcb got involved in Eastern occultic practices. Derek Prince says that these sort of practices almost always open you to demonic forces. As he notes in the book, this is not the sort of explanation that will be popular with modern people. But he found it effective in terms of helping people who approached him for deliverance.

well if i was you or if you were my good friend, id probably suggest doing some research on herbs on the skin condition while waiting the doctor.

personally i remember one yogi applying boiled turmeric and aloe vera juice -paste on even bad skin conditions (after the paste has cooled down). it can treat minor skin infections etc. etc.
and i cannot see it being harmful, at least unless there is actual blood visible.

there are even herb specialists out there. also google is a wonderful source of information if used correctly.

however, this is me and i like herbs, and after a doctor has told me the source of problem, i look out for herbs in the treatment as i dont like medicine as dont think they are good in general. but this is my understanding...

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Originally posted by Derek:

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Originally posted by bear:
kundalini + fasting i have no clue if its always safe.

I have no clue either, which is why I am not in a position to offer advice to hcb.

I am reading a book by Derek Prince titled They Shall Expel Demons. As I understand it, all these problems started when hcb got involved in Eastern occultic practices. Derek Prince says that these sort of practices almost always open you to demonic forces. As he notes in the book, this is not the sort of explanation that will be popular with modern people. But he found it effective in terms of helping people who approached him for deliverance.

hi derek, what do you suggest then ?

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Originally posted by Derek:

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Originally posted by hcb:
some time ago i run so much circles in warm boots around the table. afterwards i had serious foot problems. It really hurt.And I coudnt walk.

hcb, why did you run around the table in warm boots for so long that your feet became red and painful?

because the energy was so much i couldnt stand still, also couldnt decide, this has been a disaster because my energy foot problems zome from that.

Pls i need help from someone who understands this phenomenon.

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Originally posted by hcb:
Pls i need help from someone who understands this phenomenon.

I don't understand this phenomenon. Therefore I have no suggestions.

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i still say another thing that came to my mind now. i guess for me its like thinking together rather than anything else.

i have had a ghost (you may use another name if you liked) in me for years until one somewhat powerful yogi took it away and helped in keeping it away (help was also in developing better physical and mental health, which was also required).

here nearby we also have a priest in one church that says that he takes away demons from people.

there are people who can do this, though in Western countries not so many.

if the cause of problem is of demonic origin.

guys,
sorry you dont understand,

derek : its not that complicated,
its just that the energy wich is the vital energy,
has destroyed stuff in my feet, what actually never happens, i think, but i am in great dispair, because no one understands,

if you dont understand wgat i mean, then no one shall in the normal circuit



also my feet go in cramp en then they block all the energy,wich was a lot , much to much,

bear : i just have fysical complaints, but its all related to certain things.

Hi HCB From my experience of living with Kundalini ( which was quite powerful from time to time for me )since 1996 I have never known it to be destructive, but instead its' constructive, although it has often not felt like that. ( sometimes it used to be very painful ) You and I spoke last week, and I offered some suggestions such as soaking your feet in a bath of epsom salts and then gently massaging them, before going for a gentle walk. Did you try this? I remember Tara Springett telling me that kundalini blocked energy always responds to massage and sure it does. These days I go for regular sessions of cranio sacral therapy, and when I was in crisis some years ago, I availed of my monthly spiritual direction sessions combined with weekly body oriented psychotherapy. I don't just speak from my experience of Kundalini, but I have been a spiritual director since 1994, and a Primal Integration Facilitator since 2008, and I trained specifically with Bonnie Greenwell last year as a Kundalini Support Therapist There are many of us here who actually do understand you when many of the medics don't. However, Im glad you got checked out medically, so thats your opportunity now to do some deep therapy ( not occasionally but weekly and intensively for as long as it takes ) Don't give up, and whenever you hear yourself saying "But" then its time to listen to that But voice and invite it to be curious instead of fearful. All will be well,