The Kundalini Process: A Christian Understanding
by Philip St. Romain
Paperback and digital editions; free sample

Kundalini Energy and Christian Spirituality
- by Philip St. Romain
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My new book on kundalini is now published and available for sale as a paperback or in digital format. A free PDF sample includes the introduction and first chapter.

See http://shalomplace.com/view/k-process.html for purchase options.

If you shared an experience or helped to preview but did not receive your PDF copy of the book, please contact me.

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Hi I began to read Phillips book Kundalini Process a Christian perspective and am really impressed with the insight and the way Phil gets the dialogue going between East and West.
I have been doing Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan for about 11 years. I was born and raised a Christian and at the age of 19 went into a Seminary. I left after completing college and drifted from being a part of a church. I started going to an episcopal church about 20 years ago and about 12 years began meditating via pranayama.
My daily practice now includes some Kundalini Yoga meditation and Christian meditation.
I began to read Phillips book Kundalini Process a Christian perspective and am really impressed with the insight and the way Phil gets the dialogue going between East and West.
I appreciate your inclusion of ego as part of peoples interaction with self , world and God. I have had experience with ego bashing philosophies and theology and have had an instinctual rejection of them as being unnatural.
On page 18 you reference how higher consciousness resides on the human side of reality and is not the same as divine consciousness. Would you equate higher consciousness with your description of spirit level intensified pneuma , psyche level and organism level?
On page 5- and elsewhere you speak of the apex as the origin of the Kundalini from Jim Arraj’s philosophy. You do not specifically locate this in the root chakra? I have read the Kundalini begins in Chakra 1 and I also read it is located in chakra 3. Table 1 seems to suggest it is located more in the higher chakra’s . Could you clarify this?
On page 67 you state Kundalini is a more intensified form of bios and earlier you state it is dynamically oriented towards the Apex. In classical eastern philosophy Kundalini is activated and moves up the spine to the crown. This also suggests the Apex is the crown but the Kundalini being an intensified form of bios it would have its origin the lower chakra’s? You do not directly draw out any of these implications
In your book you also speak about Kundalini activation and problems that arise
Yogi Bajan and others who use meditations state that his meditations are safe suggesting that the problems you speak about do not occur when done with his meditations. I have experience some of the phenomena you describe but have not had any negative side effects
I am interested in your thoughts about my comments and questions.
I have also been reading your book God and I. I have been working through it via the exercises but it is taking time
I like the approach and the distinction between the Christ God self and the false self caught up in approval needs. It is unique and I have found it helpful.
 
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Hi Tony, and welcome to the forum. I'm glad you find the book helpful, and your questions can help to clarify a few topics taken up in the book.

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On page 18 you reference how higher consciousness resides on the human side of reality and is not the same as divine consciousness. Would you equate higher consciousness with your description of spirit level intensified pneuma , psyche level and organism level?


Yes, that would be a good way of putting it, though it seems some people experience higher consciousness sporadically without much energy going on. Sustaining higher consciousness does entail energetic reconfigurations.
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Table 1 seems to suggest it is located more in the higher chakra’s . Could you clarify this?

That Table doesn't say anything about kundalini, but it does indicate a parallel between the Apex and the Yogic Causal Body. See the discussions of the Apex on p. 50 and 63 for more info.
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On page 67 you state Kundalini is a more intensified form of bios and earlier you state it is dynamically oriented towards the Apex. In classical eastern philosophy Kundalini is activated and moves up the spine to the crown. This also suggests the Apex is the crown but the Kundalini being an intensified form of bios it would have its origin the lower chakra’s? You do not directly draw out any of these implications

Figure 4 associates the chakras with the three levels of human functioning, and so the higher chakras are more associated with spiritual consciousness. Of course, that is never completely separate from psychic and organismic functioning.
One way we might understand these chakras is as a way of indicating levels of consciousness. When one becomes more established in a higher chakra, the lower become more aligned in support of its functioning. When the consciousness associated with chakra 6/7 becomes more established, the bios produced by the body will need to be transformed to support the demands of this spiritual consciousness. Chakra 1 would be a good "zone" to locate the origins of bios production, and of its intensified flow upwards.

I'm glad to hear you're getting along with Yogi Bajan's meditations. I have a couple of his books but have never used his meditations. I remember one in particular that he claimed the early Christians did, and I doubt that to be the case, but I don't know where he got that info.

God and I is a good companion work to the kundalini book. I allude to k briefly in chapter 8 when writing about experiences in the Self-God zone of consciousness. We've been having a "spirited" Wink discussion of the book on another thread.
 
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thanks for the clarification.
They have a meditation called the christ meditation. I could find if you are interested. I read someplace in their literature that they believe Christ traveled through India in his earlier years and returned to the Middle East to begin his ministry. They say he learned the meditation and practiced it... I would have to check but they also state the Buddha practiced it as well.
the issue I have with this is Why would he not have talked about this practice In the New Testament there are only a few lines about how to pray. the lords prayer and others.
One would have thought meditative practices would have been suggested in some way....


I am going to browse through the forums. there is a lot there
 
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Hi Tony,

I'm thinking that you're referring to Yogi Bhajan's group, and I've come across his teaching about Jesus in India. Other teachers from the East say the same, but there's little evidence for it. The Jesus we meet in the Gospels is thoroughly Jewish, and, as you note, there's no evidence in early Christian history of Jesus having taught any kind of yogic meditation techniques to his disciples.

People who teach about Jesus and India might really be sincere in their beliefs about this, but I suspect that some say this to lure Christians into their own religious perspective. There can also be a kind of mystical snobbery at work -- like advanced teachers could only come from India, and not from Judaism or other religions.

So you'll have to evaluate those kinds of practices on their own merits rather than in terms of any connection with Jesus. Let us know what you think.
 
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