has anyone had many of these ? if so what types of things are going on? Do you feel like they are good?

I have occasional lucid dreams, but hardly ever any obe's -- unless flying around in dreams is considered obe (I do that every now and then).

I don't know that one can categorically judge either of these to be bad or good apart from considering the effects they produce and other factors.

What's your experience? Others who read this thread?

if i start to have an obe, i pray to jesus and i wake up.. if i start to have a lucid dream i just wake up. mostly they are very provacative dreams, i sense them to be evil in nature, but thats just my opinion. Theres a verse in the bible that says : Eze 13:20

(ACV) Therefore thus says lord LORD: Behold, I am against your pillows, with which ye hunt the souls there to make fly, and I will tear them from your arms. And I will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make fly.


i just keep this written on my heart, and try not to listen to the voices that coax me to fly...

i get feelings of utter bliss and orgasmic like sensations when i start to move into this realm.. almost like there is a psycic power at work or a body of spirits that want me to join them... but i refuse subconsciously because the word is written on my heart...