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mm, did you by any chance read "The Celestine Prophecy"?

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Here's the correct link for the First Things article by Schlossberg.
 
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These cultural traits have powerful effects on the direction and force of a society. Who, for example, could calculate the magnitude of the effects of the replacement of honor as an ideal by humility? A slight that might be taken as sufficient to require a duel can be forgiven by a man who newly thinks such affronts are best met by love.
Bingo. That's just huge.
 
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Katy, why not start a thread on the Celestine Prophecy? Smiler The books are very popular.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel02.html

http://www.longmeadow.org/hist_soc/awakening.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/Great_Awakening

http://en.wikipedia.org/Second_Great_Awakening

http://en.wikipedia.org/Third_Great_Awakening

Brad,

Evangelicalism hasn't changed much. They still hope for a mass change in consciousness based on
revivalism. You get alot of people going forward
to make a commitment to turn their life over to God. Are you saved? Are you Born Again? Well, you didn't do it right, go forward and do it again.

The thing is, God moves sovereignly and cannot be manipulated by his followers. However, the Holy Spirit is often moved to act through prayer. Most
authentic revivals begin with all night prayer vigils. This is a commonality in both Protestant
and Catholic revivals. Prayer changes things. People are often led to prayer by adversity, social upheaval like war and famine and societal decay. Revival followed the Civil War, the first and second World Wars, Korea, Vietnam and the Gulf
War. It is in the pipeline now, IMO, as well as the fruits of some of the other revivals.

Almost everyone thinks I'm nuts for delving into musty books on midieval mystics and church fathers, but I believe they carried revival in their hearts and spirits, and I'm just not going to be quiet about it! Smiler

caritas,

mm <*)))))><
 
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Warm up the VW microbus for one of Johnboy's favorite revivals, and mine. Smiler

http://www.creedence-online.net/

Here's another one:

http://www.openheaven.com/library/history/wales.htm

From rock&rollers to holy rollers:

http://www.sendrevival.com/history/azusa_street/

You can poke fun at the holy rollers, but 400 million followers in 100 years is nothing to sneeze at...a-choo!... it's 5 degrees outside!

caritas,

mm <*)))))><
 
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MM, if we are in the midst of a spiritual awakening then I think it helps to better understand what that awakening might be replacing or augmenting. I found Whittaker Chamber�s review of Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand to offer a backdrop for some insights:

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Atlas Shrugged can be called a novel only by devaluing the term. It is a massive tract for the times. Its story merely serves Miss Rand to get the customers inside the tent, and as a soapbox for delivering her Message. The Message is the thing. It is, in sum, a forthright philosophic materialism. Upperclassmen might incline to sniff and say that the author has, with vast effort, contrived a simple materialist system, one, intellectually, at about the stage of the oxcart, though without mastering the principle of the wheel. Like any consistent materialism, this one begins by rejecting God, religion, original sin, etc., etc. (This book's aggressive atheism and rather unbuttoned "higher morality," which chiefly outrage some readers, are, in fact, secondary ripples, and result inevitably from its underpinning premises.) Thus, Randian Man, like Marxian Man, is made the center of a godless world.

At that point, in any materialism, the main possibilities open up to Man. 1) His tragic fate becomes, without God, more tragic and much lonelier. In general, the tragedy deepens according to the degree of pessimism or stoicism with which he conducts his "hopeless encounter between human questioning and the silent universe." Or, 2) Man's fate ceases to be tragic at all. Tragedy is bypassed by the pursuit of happiness. Tragedy is henceforth pointless. Henceforth man's fate, without God, is up to him, and to him alone. His happiness, in strict materialist terms, lies with his own workaday hands and ingenious brain. His happiness becomes, in Miss Rand's words, "the moral purpose of his fife."

Here occurs a little rub whose effects are just as observable in a free-enterprise system, which is in practice materialist (whatever else it claims or supposes itself to be), as they would be under an atheist socialism, if one were ever to deliver that material abundance that all promise. The rub is that the pursuit of happiness, as an end in itself, tends automatically, and widely, to be replaced by the pursuit of pleasure, with a consequent general softening of the fibers of will, intelligence, spirit. No doubt, Miss Rand has brooded upon that little rub. Hence in part, I presume, her insistence on man as a heroic being" With productive achievement as his noblest activity." For, if Man's heroism" (some will prefer to say: human dignity") no longer derives from God, or is not a function of that godless integrity which was a root of Nietzsche's anguish, then Man becomes merely the most consuming of animals, with glut as the condition of his happiness and its replenishment his foremost activity. So Randian Man, at least in his ruling caste, has to be held "heroic" in order not to be beastly. And this, of course, suits the author's economics and the politics that must arise from them. For politics, of course, arise, though the author of Atlas Shrugged stares stonily past them, as if this book were not what, in fact, it is, essentially � a political book. And here begins mischief.
 
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http://www.blackstoneaudio.com/audiobook.cfm?ID=1052
http://www.blackstoneaudio.com/audiobook.cfm?ID=1204

One good turn desrves another. Thank you for the review, Mister Nelson. Blackstone has been a good source of conservative ideas for me for about 15 years now. If you rent Atlas Shrugged on audio, be prepared to devote sixty hours or so for listening.

caritas,

mm <*))))><
 
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