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See http://www.nationalreview.com/...berg200604210711.asp
Jonah Goldberg's article can introduce the topic, which is sure to become increasingly "prime time" during the months ahead. No one doubts it's happening, nor that humans have an influence. But how much? After all, there were ice ages and period of warming long before the industrial revolution came along. |
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Yes, that was a fine article by Jonah.
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Goldberg seems to be at the stage of peeking over into the green meme and being frightened of it, seeing it as an enemy to his egocentric view.
Al Gore is orange and green, going through the guilt and panic stage. Here is someone whose consideration of the issue shows some hopefull signs of "leaderUship." http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/ecology.html Somone I have been reading who was teaching despair workshops in the early eighties and has evolved from a Christian view to a Buddhist and systems theory view: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Macy Someone who has been living in nature and thinking about these issues since the 1950s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Snyder Snyder is something of an elder and Zen master. He seems over the narcissistic phase of green and into healthy green meme. Macy and Snyder are featured in Catherine Ingram's 1990 book, " In the Foosteps of Gandhi." Recommended! Traversing the green meme is often frightening and difficult, but there is always the hope of reaching yellow and integral thought on the other side of despair. I'm in a bit of the despairing phase of green at present, being rather disturbed by photos of depleted uranium's effects on newborn children of Iraqis, Yuguslavs and Afghanis, as well as our soldier's children born without eyes, etc. It's a new invention, like Thalidomide and Agent Orange, and it goes on for 4.5 billion years. Progress... happy springtime!  |
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I don't like analyses that leave one feeling powerless and depressed, so I shopped around a bit and found a few sites that have some practical suggestions on what individuals can do to help reduce global warming (happily, Terri, reducing the number of cattle is not on the list
 ).- see http://environment.about.com/o...p/globalwarmtips.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews..._2794000/2794907.stm (a few good articles on this site) http://www.epa.gov/globalwarming/kids/difference.html (EPA site - much good advice) http://www.ucsusa.org/global_w...-global-warming.html You'll notice that most of these have similar suggestions, which I've been doing (for the most part) for at least three decades (even paying for recycling services at times). They're not hard to do and can help in many ways, even if the human contribution to global warming is limited. I must confess that I've a much greater concern about pollution than global warming, as the latter phenomenon isn't really toxic to anyone. The kinds of practical steps mentioned on the web sites above do help to reduce pollution, so they have benefit there as well. Of course, what individuals do pales in comparison to what factories and auto-emissions put out into the environment. Then there is the issue of China, India and other developing countries increasing their use of fossil fules -- with very few pollution standards compared to the West. Still, one does what one can, and that's all you can do. |
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Ok, I'll try to be cheery. Awareness and changes in behavior are encouraging.
I'll still need several earths to support my present level of consumption.  Is there a solution? I'm reading a book Scott Peck wrote in 1987 called A Different Drum, Community and Peacemaking. Good book with helpful suggestions.I suggest we think of spaceship earth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceship_Earth Buckminster Fuller was an optimist. So are the atomic scientists, I think, but realistic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock First get rid of nuclear weapons within the next "seven minutes" and then plant lots of trees all over "arable" land, Arab or otherwise. |
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Phil, I'm like you, pollution is the thing that I think about a lot. Plastics, in particular, leave me wondering about the generations down the road. As farmers, my husband and I both get concerned with the amount of fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides that we use. It's almost impossible NOT to use them. The government encourages the use of fertilizers in order to make more crop. If you're going to pay the bills, then you must make that greater crop because the cost of planting and maintaining it is off the scale comparatively speaking. With herbicides and pesticides, you're caught in a quandry. If your neighbor uses pesticides and you don't, you can kiss your crop goodbye as they will merely migrate to you. Same thing applies with herbicides because the seeds blow (this is Oklahoma...the wind do come sweeping down the plains) into your crop. It's like a vicious cycle. If you use ladybugs and such to organically control pests, the pesticide of the neighbor kills your good little ladybugs..argh! Some pests are actually good weed controllers, but, same ole same ole..they get the axe as well. There can be no denying, however, that these practices will and already do effect our health and wellbeing, not to mention the effect they have on the environment in general
.Oh, and just a little side note, believe it or not, the local USDA and FSA employees recently had to attend a seminar in which the cattle thing was a major topic. There are actually some proposals about fining cattle ranchers if they have over x number of cattle, if they don't use x type of feed, if they don't take extensive measures to measure and ensure the reduction of methane gas output. Sheesh. Blessings, Terri |
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I'm doing my part. I'm recycling my cows.
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Smarty pants  LOL! |
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Welcome back, MM. I hope your meditative exile has been going well.
I really like the "Spaceship Earth" metaphor and wish it would catch on. When one considers the protection provided by our planet against the emptiness and coldness of outer space, it really does become clear that caring for the earth and its resource is not just a "good idea," but an imperative for our very survival. That might seem so obvious as to not even deserve mentioning, but the way we've gone about things during the past few centuries suggests an incredible blind spot in our awareness. |
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Terri:
Might I suggest a good way to keep the liver able to detoxify those pesticides? |
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Sure w.c.! I always feel I need to detoxify from practically anything we eat or drink nowadays anyway. So, I'm all ears...so to speak .God bless, Terri |
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Terri:
You might take a look at herbs like Milk Thistle or Curcumin, and the amino acid N-acetyl-cysteine, all of them increasing glutathione peroxidase throughout the body, which is one of the primary intercellular antioxidants. NAC is known to chelate, or bind to, heavy metals, and perhaps to pesticides as well, besides increasing the liver's ability to detoxify. Turmeric also seems to chelate toxins as well, besides its antioxidant properties. Some doctor's recommend alternating them: one to three months each at the dose recommended on the bottle, which generally is 1-2 capsules per day. The NAC is usually taken on an empty stomach so as not to compete with other amino acids for absorption. Milk Thistle and Turmeric can be taken with meals. The only contraindication I'm aware of is for Turmeric/Curcumin if one takes large amounts of it and is on a prescribed blood thinner or has active gallstones (the herb liquifies bile, which is a good thing), or has an active ulcer (increased bile flow can aggravate this condition). You can also find these blended together in formulas. The cheapest place to purchase them singly or in formulas is on-line at www.iherb.com iherb offers wholesale prices, sometimes 50% lower than what you'd pay over the counter. If you buy retail, avoid the drug store brands, as they usually have fillers and binders that limit bioavailability. If using herbs, look for brands that provide standardized extracts, which increase the potency of the substances thought to be most active in beneficial effects. "Curcumin" is one of the ingredients in the spice Turmeric. But the best approach is to find a acupuncturist or licensed naturopath (lots of frauds out there!). Acupuncturists are licensed in Chinese herbal therapy, which seems quite effective in treating the variety of symptoms most adults present with. One needn't request acupuncture to get an herbal consultation. You can also do a pubmed search. Type "pubmed" in a Google search, and then type your key words, such as "Curcumin pesticides" and you'll pull up a bibligraphical listing of all the related medical research papers. Then click on the bibliography notation in blue, and you'll access the abstract of the paper. These can be given to your doctor for reference, although most of them are fairly cavalier, if not critical, about herbal therapies. |
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Whoa...thanks for all the info. That was great!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller
Phil, have you visited his house in Witchita? Perhaps a source of inspiration. You might get an idea or two to share with us if you go. Science and technology may save us, but it depends on the consciousness that is using it. I feel that contact with the Holy Spirit may be helpful, and only the hand of God has kept the Doomsday Clock from striking midnight. Father Thomas Keating doubts that God would allow the Grand Experiment to fail. About terrorism, fight it with truth and if need be with policing. Stop all state sponsored acts of terror, including the United States type. Might have to break some eggs, but I like pacifism as an ideal. Eat less meat, as meat requires more energy. Same with processes foods, and grow a garden. Home grown food is better, and gives less fuel to industrial capitalistic machinery. Those boys have too much power, and we gave it to them. I see a large natural food revolution on the horizon. Plant trees everwhere. Regulate the fishing industry. They throw out and kill more than what they catch for us. We already have new technology. That's all 4 now. I'll read the Mother Earth News and listen to Fuller's lectures, and find some more ideas. God gave us unlimited creativity and resourcefulness, and now we'll have to use it. Old Bucky was way out there ahead of everyone... |
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MM, I haven't visited his house, but I did work here for a few years, doing their web site. You can see the geodesic domes inspired by Fuller -- a very cool place to work. They should have painted the place Turquoise.
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Hi Terri,
Besides the obvious discussion here on pesticides and its use in farming, I learned that you and your husband are farmers. Can you share with us what your life is like living on a farm, and what is it that you grow in vegetables and/or fruit. Also how many acres of land have you got?. Do you enjoy the life you are living together with your husband and family?. It must be a rural area. What are the people like in this area?. Also do you can, make jam, etc.?. Would love to hear about your life and what a day is like being on a farm. Do you also raise animals?. |
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Phil, did the job require turquoise jewelry!
This guy blows my mind. Can we clone him and run him 100 times for senator? http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller "Quite clearly our task is predominantly metaphysical, for it is how to get all of humanity to educate itself swiftly enough to generate spontaneous social behaviors that will avoid extinction." Congratulations to shalom place for being "on task!" "Whether it will be Utopia or Oblivion will be a touch-and-go relay race right up until the final moment.... Humanity is in the "final exam" as to whether or not it qualifies for continuance in the Universe." This is the quantum leap I have been looking for. Where are Brad and Johnboy? "The explicable requires the inexplicable. Experience requires the nonexperienceable. The obvious requires the mystical. This is a powerful group of paired concepts generated by the complimentarity of conceptuality." really_blows_my_dome@awe.com |
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MM, we do indeed see this Utopia/Oblivion dynamic playing itself out on the world stage; we are so very able to bring about both, with just a little effort in either direction.
I think Jesus' perspective on weeds and wheat growing together speaks very well to this tension. He seems to be saying that that's just how it goes, but that, in the end, he will separate the two and the weeds will be burned. IOW, history belongs to Christ, and the reign of God will come to be established on earth as in heaven. This is an assurance that our faith brings, and so there is no need for anxiety concerning our future. Christ is the paradigm, and he is risen. |
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I always run home to that after the despair. That's where the true security lies.
I'm reading Erik Erikson's biography of Gandhi and he maintained a more or less continuous contact. His last words were the name of God. Bucky believed in God: "Dare to be naive." "Don't fight forces, use them." "God is a verb." I feel that to save the world, I need to allow everyone to rise and fall of their own choices. If I feel qualified to decide who are the wheat and the tares and who is good and evil, and who should live and who should die, then I am beginning to move God off of the throne and that is often a precarious place to be. Trust and faith must take place in a position of profound uncertainty. I must trust and have faith in a certainty beyond perception or senses. I make many mistakes. I hope God has a big eraser. My thesis has White-Out blotches all over it. Bucky calls this "experimentation." Happy experimenting... |
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The Antarctic ice cap is actually growing, and it's been colder there lately.
- http://nrd.nationalreview.com/...MzZhOTFiNmYwZTUyZmU= So much for ocean levels rising! |
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Freebird!
I'm so sorry, I just now saw this post!
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Well, that sounds much better than city-living . . . . .
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Well it is for me..that's for sure  ! |
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Meanwhile, in the Mile-High City, mm pines for the Arraj family lifestyle:
http://innerexplorations.com/simpletext/simple.htm A progressive website takes issue with National Review's cover story: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/...onal-review-warming/ If the Peakniks are right, many leaving stifling cities soon, heading in Terri's direction. urbanmassexodus@cityflight.org |
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